Comments on: Onsdagsböcker; årets 50 böcker 1-10 http://www.tatortstimotej.com/2008/10/08/onsdagsbocker-arets-50-bocker-1-10/ Inte exilsvensk. Hemma. Tue, 31 Jan 2012 09:13:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Anna http://www.tatortstimotej.com/2008/10/08/onsdagsbocker-arets-50-bocker-1-10/comment-page-1/#comment-44 Anna Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:36:37 +0000 http://www.tatortstimotej.com/?p=253#comment-44 Jorå, läste ut gjorde jag; jag låser mig precis likadant. Det tog flera veckor bara. Jorå, läste ut gjorde jag; jag låser mig precis likadant. Det tog flera veckor bara.

]]> By: Jenny L http://www.tatortstimotej.com/2008/10/08/onsdagsbocker-arets-50-bocker-1-10/comment-page-1/#comment-43 Jenny L Fri, 10 Oct 2008 06:48:03 +0000 http://www.tatortstimotej.com/?p=253#comment-43 Men åh vad trist att du inte gillade min favorit! Orkade du läsa ut? Jag menar Blindheten förstås. (Jag läser ut allt, även sopor, vilket kan resultera i att en sopa låser mig och jag inte läser på flera månader eftersom jag måste läsa ut sopan först) Men åh vad trist att du inte gillade min favorit! Orkade du läsa ut? Jag menar Blindheten förstås.
(Jag läser ut allt, även sopor, vilket kan resultera i att en sopa låser mig och jag inte läser på flera månader eftersom jag måste läsa ut sopan först)

]]> By: Anna http://www.tatortstimotej.com/2008/10/08/onsdagsbocker-arets-50-bocker-1-10/comment-page-1/#comment-42 Anna Thu, 09 Oct 2008 18:54:57 +0000 http://www.tatortstimotej.com/?p=253#comment-42 The Fight for English är rolig med, jag citerar: <i>"So of putting a preposition at the end of a sentence has such an ancient and literary standing [as previously shown in Chaucer, Shakespeare etc.], why on earth was it eventually considered incorrect? The short answer - and it applies to all prescriptive rules - is that somebody thought it was wrong /.../ In the case of the end-places preposition, that somebody was John Dryden. /.../ Why did Dryden not like the preposition at the end of a sentence? It was probably a mixture of things. He may have developed a stylistic taste for finishing a sentence with an important word. He may have been impressed with the different rhythms involved in the alternatives. He may have sensed that the end-placing was very common in colloquial speech. But above all, Dryden, a classic scholar, would have been influenced by Latin grammarians. In Latin, prepositions go before nouns. That is why they are called 'pre'-positions. As we saw in Chapter 1, there could be no higher accolade for a language than to imitate Latin. Whatever the reason, Dryden took against the construction. And when he noticed that it was something he routinely did himself, he started correcting his own writing. Full marks for for acting according to your principles, at any rate! A century later, the prescriptive grammarians welcomed Dryden's decision with open arms. To see why, you have to appreciate what they were trying to do. Their aim as to find grammatical patterns that could characterize polite speech and writing. That meant formal English. The trouble is that that there are not many possibilities in the language. If we add up all the grammar that distinguish format from informal usage, we do not get a very large number- just a few dozen. /.../ The preposition issue was perfect. Not only had the rule been proposed by someone with immense literary prestige, but the construction illustrated by 'That is the man I was talking to ' is very common in English, so it became a good discriminator."</i> The Fight for English är rolig med, jag citerar:
“So of putting a preposition at the end of a sentence has such an ancient and literary standing [as previously shown in Chaucer, Shakespeare etc.], why on earth was it eventually considered incorrect?
The short answer – and it applies to all prescriptive rules – is that somebody thought it was wrong /…/ In the case of the end-places preposition, that somebody was John Dryden. /…/ Why did Dryden not like the preposition at the end of a sentence? It was probably a mixture of things. He may have developed a stylistic taste for finishing a sentence with an important word. He may have been impressed with the different rhythms involved in the alternatives. He may have sensed that the end-placing was very common in colloquial speech. But above all, Dryden, a classic scholar, would have been influenced by Latin grammarians. In Latin, prepositions go before nouns. That is why they are called ‘pre’-positions. As we saw in Chapter 1, there could be no higher accolade for a language than to imitate Latin.
Whatever the reason, Dryden took against the construction. And when he noticed that it was something he routinely did himself, he started correcting his own writing. Full marks for for acting according to your principles, at any rate!
A century later, the prescriptive grammarians welcomed Dryden’s decision with open arms. To see why, you have to appreciate what they were trying to do. Their aim as to find grammatical patterns that could characterize polite speech and writing. That meant formal English. The trouble is that that there are not many possibilities in the language. If we add up all the grammar that distinguish format from informal usage, we do not get a very large number- just a few dozen. /…/ The preposition issue was perfect. Not only had the rule been proposed by someone with immense literary prestige, but the construction illustrated by ‘That is the man I was talking to ‘ is very common in English, so it became a good discriminator.”

]]> By: Maria http://www.tatortstimotej.com/2008/10/08/onsdagsbocker-arets-50-bocker-1-10/comment-page-1/#comment-41 Maria Thu, 09 Oct 2008 09:40:57 +0000 http://www.tatortstimotej.com/?p=253#comment-41 "The trouble with normal" verkar intressant. "The fight for english" också. :) *skriver upp* “The trouble with normal” verkar intressant. “The fight for english” också. :)

*skriver upp*

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